NY and trans-fat

[mbossman2]

NEW YORK - New York on Tuesday became the first city in the nation to ban artery-clogging trans fats at restaurants, leading the charge to limit consumption of an ingredient linked to heart disease and used in things such as french fries, pizza dough and pancake mix.

In a city where eating out is a major form of activity -- either for fun or out of hectic necessity -- many New Yorkers are all for the ban, saying that their health is more important than fears of Big Brother.

Article (http://www.newsobserver.com/110/story/518166.html)

I love some of the quotes:

"I don't care about what might be politically correct and what's not," said Murray Bader, nursing a cup of coffee at Dunkin' Donuts on Tuesday morning. "I want to live longer!"
then maybe you ought to watch what you eat instead of going to Dunkin Donuts?!

Toni Lewis, catching a quick dinner at McDonald's ...But, she added: "I welcome the intrusion."

sitting in McDonalds and bitching about the food? Did someone MAKE you go in there and plop down your $$$ to buy and eat that Big Mac????

many New Yorkers are all for the ban

I wonder if this acceptance has anything to do with the political makeup and mindset of NYC? It has voted "blue" for as long as I can remember, so it begs the question:

Are democrats more willing (the more liberal, the more willing) to accept more granular government control over their lives and personal choices?

[drisley]

My conservative streak reacts by saying this is gov't intrusion and let people work it out for themselves. However, knowing what I know about the danger of trans-fats and the money interests behind pushing this shit into our food supply, I have a really hard time coming down against this one. As far as I'm concerned, if most of the city is for it, and their elected leaders pass it, then that is representative democracy at its finest.

[jessho]

I think they could have better spent their time seeking the removal of insurance regulations and giving the citizens the opportunity to seek better health care through reduced costs. I doubt 10% of the entire population of New York City know what trans fats are.

What's next, arrests for serving bacon?

[mbossman2]

What's next, arrests for serving bacon?

mandatory calisthenics?
X grams of fiber per day?

[drisley]

True, but it could be argued that cutting out trans-fats would reduce the load on the medical industry, saving costs all around.

[jessho]

It could, but I'd like to know what would be the biggest savings to health care consumers: Regulating the use of trans-fats or removing the costs of regulations and allowing the free market to govern the costs of health care. I'm willing to bet the health care and insurance regulations in New York City increase the costs of health care by over 100%.

[drisley]

Oh, no doubt, if financial savings is the prime factor here, free market effect on health care is certainly the way to go. My argument is based more on ethics. Trans-fats and other such "foods" created by chemical engineers are dangerous to people, and in my view, are actively put on the market for purely financial reasons. Ideally, no law would be needed on this subject...but the end effect of this is something I have a hard time arguing with. And again, at the city-level, if they want to put something like that into law, I think they have every right to do it.

[Gintaras]

many New Yorkers are all for the ban, saying that their health is more important than fears of Big Brother.



People believe what Leader tells them. New Yorkers believe that...They are all hands up for...... :rolleyes:

But hey, what forumclickers are different from New Yorkers?

In NYC, NOW....about shit food.

Look at yourself:

Iraq- "WMD"....almost everyone on here clapping to Leader's speeched with both hands and feet.
"War on Terror"- how many disagree on here from "Big Brother- Leader"?
Iran- "nukes and nut president"...what? who disagree from what "big brother" thinks about?

Just confess, that not just New Yorkers, but most of you, a 1/2(at least) of US can't live without "big brother".

Mostly, because one side of brain got lost, the other side is looking for the lost one......... :rolleyes:

[Gintaras]

I was reading about a lot:"financial savings", "more on ethics", "financial reasons", "biggest savings to health care consumers", "costs of health care",
"saving costs all around", "insurance regulations", "reduced costs",

Who cares what about?

[Gintaras]

Isn't much cheaper to eat own shit- smells different... :rolleyes: but made from same ingredients Big Mac is made of.........

[bigpuma]

Are democrats more willing (the more liberal, the more willing) to accept more granular government control over their lives and personal choices?

No, both parties equally want to tell you what you can or can't put into your body or watch on television, or who you have sex with. They just have different priorities.