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mbossman2
11-17-2006, 02:56 PM
who puts their (personal) money where their mouth is when it comes to helping the poor?

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks is about to become the darling of the religious right wing in America -- and it's making him nervous.

The child of academics, raised in a liberal household and educated in the liberal arts, Brooks has written a book that concludes religious conservatives donate far more money than secular liberals to all sorts of charitable activities, irrespective of income.

In the book, to be released later this month, he cites extensive data analysis to demonstrate that values advocated by conservatives -- from church attendance and two-parent families to the Protestant work ethic and a distaste for government-funded social services -- make conservatives more generous than liberals.

The book, titled "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" (Basic Books, $26), is due for release Nov. 24.

When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long, liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face of social injustice."


hmmmm......


Article (http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/brieaddy111406.html)

heyhey
11-17-2006, 04:03 PM
who puts their (personal) money where their mouth is when it comes to helping the poor?




hmmmm......


Article (http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/brieaddy111406.html)

Last I checked Warren Buffet, Ted Turner, Bono and Bill and Melinda Gates weren't exactly social conservatives? Is there news I do not know about??

There is a mass movement among individual evangelicals towards traditional liberal issues like helping the poor and climate change. I think that part of this shift was evidenced in the elections this month. Truth of the matter the GOP no longer has the monopoly on Christians or moral issues. Personally I have little more faith in giving money to Christian charities to help the poor then I think our goverment effeciently helps them...my husband recently had a contract with a evangelical Christian church... that's memebers were nearly all low to low middle income Hispanics who still pledged 20% of thier gross earnings to the church... seeing the pastors drive around in Hummers and Cobras and living in multi-million dollar homes gave him little faith that the hard work and charity of the working class congregation ever really paid off in the end to the people the organization pledges to help.

that's why I give to secular humanitarian charities.

Computer Hobby
11-17-2006, 04:13 PM
There is a major difference between the Fundamentalist Christian communtiy and the Christian community at large. The Fundamentalists are mostly about the fleecing of the sheep. Christians in general are very generous people. This last year I went on a mission trip with a baptist church group to Katrina damaged Mississippi. Those guys gave a lot of time and money helping just plain folks. Of course that church was kicked out of the Southern Baptist Convention because it was, well, more Christian than Baptist, but so was Jimmy Carter's home church.

Without reading his study it is impossible to draw conclusions.

Does he count the donations to the church as part of Christian charity?

Gintaras
11-18-2006, 12:08 AM
Truth of the matter the GOP no longer has the monopoly on Christians or moral issues. Personally I have little more faith in giving money to Christian charities to help the poor then I think our goverment effeciently helps them...my husband recently had a contract with a evangelical Christian church...

Heyday, I do have respect for you and your religion. If I wasn't an atheist, I suppossedly to be a catholic.

All charities are a fraud, even a Red Cross. Have you forgot Red Cross scandal after 9/11.

Well, my personal experience wit a CHARITY(catholic one):

A few year back, I needed to fill in immigration forms. Some were very confusing to me. At INS office, they gave me a list who could help me.
I called to some Catholic Charity, and told what did I need....price- $400...for help from a "charity".
I lokked in Yellow Pages, found several Immigration Lawyers, price for what I needed(Catholic "charity" wanted $400), was $200..

Since then, never again, never ever, I would give anything to so-called "charity". I'd better give directly to people I don't even know, but no fraudsters or scammers @ chatholic or any other "charities"

mbossman2
11-18-2006, 06:14 AM
Does he count the donations to the church as part of Christian charity?


i guess we'd have to buy the book...