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themistocles
05-11-2005, 11:33 PM
I wrote this on another bulletin board but thought it was interesting enough to cut and paste here...

King Charles X of France, in a desperate gamble to win some support at home, invades Algeria in 1830. Most everyone in France hates Charles X and thus disapproves of the action, but when Charles is overthrown and initial victory is apparent in Algeria, the French hold on to the conquest.

In 1832, the famous Muslim warrior-scholar Abd al Kader (immensely important figure in Islamic history, by the way) declared a Jihad on the invading French and fought a very brutal guerrilla war. The guerrillas would hide in the Atlas Mountains near Oran, come down and ambush unsuspecting Frenchmen, and high tail it back to the mountains.

In 1837, Abd al Kader and French General Thomas Bugeaud agreed to conduct peace talks. The French wanted to keep their gains and end the fighting and were willing to cede to Kader Western Algeria in exchange for peace. Kader upped the stakes by promising peace if he could also have three thousand state of the art rifles. With peace, no more certain than the assurances of Kader, Bugeaud amazingly agreed and gave Kader and his army three thousand rifles, all of top quality. It was known that Kader was also securing an arms deal with the Brits at the same time.

Not surprisingly, with their new set of weapons, Kader reneged on his promises towards peace and commanded an army of 50,000, which bogged the French down.

Another funny and less tragic anecdote is the attempted acquisition of Morrocco by European powers after 1900. France had the leg up and pretty much was assured the nation. Because the Germans and British also wanted it, the Germans offered a plan that was both (rather intentionally) comical and obtuse (rather typical of German foreign policy at the time) where the British would recieve "strategic" Morocco, the Germans "economic" Morocco, and the French "picturesque" Morocco.

Oh, those wacky French! :p

Gintaras
05-17-2005, 07:59 PM
Oh, those wacky French! :p

Themi,

Could you taka a trip to NYC and visit Statue Of Liberty (http://www.nps.gov/stli/prod02.htm#Statue%20of)

It would be very good for your HISTORY STUDIES.....

btw, regularamericans or french won't do that you've on here.

Only wacky americans can do about french, or wacky french can do about americans.

themistocles
06-14-2005, 05:46 PM
The French are an interesting people, gintaras.

Gintaras
06-17-2005, 08:16 PM
The French are an interesting people, gintaras.

I sometimes woder how and why americans with European descent don't like/hate Europe.

Even better, they say that Michael Moore or like him are anti-americans........

themistocles
06-21-2005, 04:32 PM
This is a fellow I find fascinating.

Patrice MacMahon
1808–93, president of the French republic (1873–79), marshal of France. MacMahon, of Irish descent, fought in the Algerian campaign, in the Crimean War, and in the Italian war of 1859. For his victory at Magenta (1859), Napoleon III created him duke of Magenta. He was governor-general (1864–70) of Algeria and a commander in the Franco-Prussian War, taking part in the battle resulting in the great defeat of the French at Sedan (1870). He aided (1871) in the bloody suppression of the Commune of Paris. A monarchist, he was chosen by the monarchist majority in the national assembly to succeed Adolphe Thiers in 1873 as president of France for a seven-year term. MacMahon inaugurated measures designed to repress the republicans but was unwilling to go to the illegal extremes necessary to reestablish a monarchy. This reluctance, as well as dissension among the monarchists, served to preserve the Third Republic, and France received its new constitution in the organic laws of 1875. On May 16 (le Seize Mai), 1877, MacMahon precipitated a crisis by forcing the republican premier, Jules Simon, to resign, although Simon had the support of the newly elected (1876) chamber of deputies, which had a republican majority. MacMahon appointed a royalist cabinet, dissolved the chamber of deputies, and ordered new elections; this was the only time during the Third Republic that the chamber was dissolved. Despite a Republican victory in the elections in Oct., 1877, MacMahon again named a royalist ministry. He was finally forced (December) to accept a ministry that had the approval of the chamber of deputies. This incident established the principle of ministerial responsibility to the chamber rather than to the president, thus limiting presidential power in the Third Republic. Involved in continuing conflict with the chamber of deputies, MacMahon resigned in Jan., 1879, before the end of his seven-year term. Jules Grévy succeeded him.
http://www.answers.com/topic/patrice-macmahon-duc-de-magenta

The Cincinnatus of French history. :cool: