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Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:23 PM
Do you think that this has had any long lasting negative effects on our society, especially ones on people that are considered 'ugly'?

bob
12-22-2003, 11:28 PM
I remember watching the Wizard of Oz and was shocked when I heard the line "only bad witches are ugly" - Good witch of the North.

On that note the ugliest person I can imagine is Ann Coulter..

Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:30 PM
In all of our children books, the bad witch or bad wizard is always ugly.

bob
12-22-2003, 11:41 PM
One thing I have noticed is that marriages between people that are not beautiful last while those with at least one exceptionally good looking partner rarely last - if both are beautiful they never last.

Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:43 PM
interesting.....perhaps we need to find Grape to do us another little research for us. ;)

It also makes me feel better because I know for a fact that I was much better looking that all of my ex's. :D

bob
12-22-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Morning Calm

It also makes me feel better because I know for a fact that I was much better looking that all of my ex's. :D

Now you know that it was YOUR fault. :D:D:D:D:D

Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:47 PM
LOL, you're right.

I said I was sorry and still offered to be friends!

bob
12-22-2003, 11:47 PM
Reminds me of someone showing me a picture of his future wife at work. My comment was "Who is getting the best end of the deal?"

Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:49 PM
common now.....

are you saying that the better looking one is the usually the bad one?

bob
12-22-2003, 11:51 PM
On a scale of one to ten - What is your IQ?

Morning Calm
12-22-2003, 11:55 PM
I do not believe in tests; I think they are bias based on who wrote them. Beauty is the same as well but alittle different.

Every heard of the 1:1.8 theory (not sure on the exact number ratio)?? It explains beauty.

bob
12-23-2003, 12:03 AM
Common - you have ten fingers - estimate. :D

Beauty cannot be defined 100% but ugly is fairly easy to see.

While ugly cannot be nexused with bad or good, beauty has a power that power can be tempting to abuse.

Morning Calm
12-23-2003, 12:06 AM
Here is something interesting for you to read or research.

Have you ever heard of the Golden Ratio of Nature?

Here are some links to start with:

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

http://superstringtheory.com/forum/metaboard/messages17/91.html

http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/humanface/articles/mask.html

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_reposefrontalmaskapplication_page.htm

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_reposelateralmaskapplication_page.htm

bob
12-23-2003, 12:11 AM
What a roundabout way of proving that symmetry is beautiful to a biped. :)

Morning Calm
12-23-2003, 12:21 AM
What I found interesting was the point that this was long ago one of the best kept secrets in architecture as it can be used to appeal to the human eye.

Later, Leonardo da Vinci painted Mona Lisa's face to fit perfectly into a golden rectangle, and structured the rest of the painting around similar rectangles. Mozart divided a striking number of his sonatas into two parts whose lengths reflect the golden ratio, though there is much debate about whether he was conscious of this. In more modern times, Hungarian composer Bela Bartok and French architect Le Corbusier purposefully incorporated the golden ratio into their work.

Even today, the golden ratio is in human-made objects all around us. Look at almost any Christian cross; the ratio of the vertical part to the horizontal is the golden ratio. To find a golden rectangle, you need to look no further than the credit cards in your wallet.


http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/humanface/articles/mask2.html

Originally posted by bob
What a roundabout way of proving that symmetry is beautiful to a biped. :)

It was not too many years ago that we saw facial disorders or deformity as a curse of being evil, or being punished by a greater power for our internal sin. On top of this, I think that much of our children literature still sings these tunes of evil being associated with ugliness.

In fact, I think there are obvious reasons we can see that more sucessful people are more beautiful. It certainly helps within getting a job or how people in the office treats you, as it also conditions a persons character and how they perceive themselves as well as their self-confidence

bob
12-23-2003, 12:32 AM
It is sad that less than 10% of the people will fit the profile of beauty based on the math while the architecture tricks are simply learned.

Morning Calm
12-23-2003, 12:37 AM
It's a disclaimer so that the ugly people won't rally together to reject such a theory that attacks them personally.

bob
12-23-2003, 12:49 AM
many ugly people make the difference up by being better people and reap the rewards of longer term friendships.

Karel
12-24-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by bob
One thing I have noticed is that marriages between people that are not beautiful last while those with at least one exceptionally good looking partner rarely last - if both are beautiful they never last. :eek: Man, I must be dead ugly...I knew my wife was, but me?!?!? :D

bob
12-24-2003, 12:12 PM
My nasty wisdom applies worldwide. :D