View Full Version : We are being visited by other-worldy beings!
HoofHearted
12-20-2002, 07:23 PM
Aliens look at us like we look at insects.
They are having a great laugh watching us fighting with each other and would never dream of interacting with such pond life.
To think that out of countless stars, planets and civilisations that we have never been visited by curious creatures unknown is just ridiculous.
Sometimes we are visited by gangs of alien kids high on galactic booze!
(i.e. The Kelly Hopkinsville case in the 50's).
HAL9000
12-20-2002, 08:16 PM
I dunno if we've ever been visited by alien races... who knows, what I think is ridiculous is that with the vastness of our universe and the billions upon billions of stars and planets out there, are the people that think on this little speck of dust flying thru space we call our home, that we're the only life out there.
HoofHearted
12-24-2002, 08:58 PM
It won't happen in our lifetime Sauron!
You mean that space elevator idea isn't real ? http://64.207.13.28/mysmilies/cwm/alien/laugh.gif
HAL9000
12-24-2002, 10:40 PM
Just keep tokin', drinkin', and eatin' the brownies Don... you'll go on a galactic trip of a lifetime.
Lhttp://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/sarge/Paranoid_anim.gifL
Quartzhunter
12-25-2002, 05:02 PM
you know some of the best trips I ever took were in my own living room....'
Q
Hot Rod
01-12-2003, 08:29 PM
If we would have kept progressing the space program it might have happened in our lifetime. It seems like our space program has lost all momemtum. We haven't gone back to the moon let alone other planets (that's not counting the probes and stuff we've sent out).
Intergalactic travel will never happen. If man survives long enough our galaxy may merge with another but the distances are just too great to travel between galaxies.
Intragalactic travel may happen but not for thousands of years. It will also take hundreds of years to get to the nearest star.
Unless you think Einstein was completely wrong, which would make you a true moron.
It happens every day on Star Trek. You guys don't know what you're talking about.
Hot Rod
01-12-2003, 11:33 PM
I know it is a long shot....but people said we would never fly either. I won't say that it is impossible or it will take thousands of years. Look how far we have come since the Wright brothers to where we are now and in a relatively short period of time.
Computers have advanced so far just in the last 20 years. I am excited about where technology will take us in the next 20, 40, 60 years.
Don't be so pessimistic Bob.
Originally posted by Hot Rod
I know it is a long shot....but people said we would never fly either. I won't say that it is impossible or it will take thousands of years. Look how far we have come since the Wright brothers to where we are now and in a relatively short period of time.
Computers have advanced so far just in the last 20 years. I am excited about where technology will take us in the next 20, 40, 60 years.
Don't be so pessimistic Bob.
It is not pessimistic, it is the plain laws of phyiscs based on E=MC2
To push matter the speed of light would take all the evergy in the universe - and it would still take 4 years to get to the closest star.
Hot Rod
01-14-2003, 12:33 PM
I imagine somebody a lot smarter than me will figure out some way to push the boundaries of that theory. Just like we pushed the boundaries of gravity.
I don't believe everything has already been discovered. I'm sure there are a lot of theroies and equations yet to be found.
And if you think about it, they don't necessarily have to perfect super fast space travel. They could perfect the process of suspended animation in combination with fast space travel so the time it takes to get to a far distant galaxy doesn't affect the body as much. You wouldn't age during the trip.
Today's science fiction is tomorrow's science fact. At least that is what one of my science teachers told me once. :)
I would not take to much stock in an 8th grade science teachers opinion. ;)
BTW, fuel oil will not get the job done. :D
As Giles would say, "You both are mistaken" :D
Einstiens theory is correct.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/01/08/gravity.speed.ap/index.html
Hot Rod
01-14-2003, 02:06 PM
Doh!!!
Actually I think it was my high school chemistry teacher although I can't remember for sure. That was about 16 years ago. We were talking about the Apple computers which our school had and what would happen to computers in the future. How much more powerful and faster they would become. It seemed like science fiction at that point.
There will be great unseen advances but some are never going to happen.
Transporters for people (star trek) and faster than light human (matter) travel speed (warp speed) will not ever happen in this universe.
We do know enough about the universe to know that indubitably. :)
Hot Rod
01-14-2003, 02:41 PM
Skeptics also said we'd never break the speed of sound or send a man into outer space let alone the moon. Gravity was just too powerful to let us get off the earth.
As long as there are eager young minds exploring and asking "what if" then I hold out hope that anything is possible.
As soon as you say it is impossible..you put limits on yourself.
Kassia
01-14-2003, 02:42 PM
Well said, Hot Rod :D
HAL9000
01-14-2003, 02:54 PM
Or simply put... never say never, cuz that's when somebody will find a way.
Put on your foil beanies and march blindly into the future.
BTW, if you could transform an apple into energy ( to transport it) you would have enough energy to blast the whole earth into a big cloud of dust. ;)
Sauron, you took that picture of yourself in the bathroom and made it into an avaitor - right?
There will be advances that we can not even imagine right now - but we do understand some of the limits very well.
In 200 B.C scientists not only knew the earth was round but even calculated the circumference to within 50 miles of its actual size. It is still round. ;)
Smoron stop bumping threads to increase your post count - you are messing up this board.
I think you may get to the honor of being the first banned member of FC.
Quartzhunter
01-16-2003, 01:43 PM
Bob ...I am so surprized at your "narrow thinking" on this subject...normally you are so open minded about things.
I certainly wouldn't argue Enstien...however I think that space travel is going to be more along the lines of "transporting"...perhaps...then again while Enstien's theroy may be correct...it may not be complete...I am suprized that we use the fuels that we use today in Space ...we need more of a "bang" that has no or little weight to it...darlithium crystals perhaps? You can go ahead and laugh at me...but I really think that there is so much more we are going to discover here and in space. The Space program is "quiet" for now due to our "money issues" stop and think about the economy and the shuttle missions 5 years ago...we had it to spend and they made sure we knew how they were spending it...it costs alot to send those babies up...so I are not worried I think they are just laying low...not drawing alot of attention to thier budget! (Good for them cuz I LOVE the space program)
Q
HAL9000
01-16-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by bob
Smoron stop bumping threads to increase your post count - you are messing up this board.
I think you may get to the honor of being the first banned member of FC.
What are you talking about bob.... I don't see any of his posts.
Considering that humans do not know everything about science today there is still the possibility of disproving Einstein. Of course I had no idea where to even begin. I simply cannot believe that all of our future achievements will be limited to the theories we know today.
Originally posted by HAL9000
What are you talking about bob.... I don't see any of his posts.
On 1/14 he bumped every thread in conspiracy regardless of how old they were. Many are still unanswered.
You must have the bastard on "ignore"
HAL9000
01-16-2003, 04:17 PM
;)
Q. I just happen to know a great deal on the subject.
I know the difference between science and science-fiction because I am interested in both.
We may make Mars into a second earth-like planet but will not travel in energy beams or to other galaxies.
You need to understand the distances and the time frames involved.
Here is a friendly ;) site. Read UFOs 1 - 9 to get my point. This is far from a pure science site and explains some of the issues from a beginning level.
http://www.biblehelp.org/ugod.htm
BTW, there is another thing that will not happen - going back in time.
There are still many unknown possibilites that could lead us to all kinds of great things.
The site I posted has some of the calculations incorrect. The ones for energy required to propell a space craft to 90% the speed of light are wrong. It would take more energy because of the einstien equations are not being used.
Although, they are close enough to make the point.
Quartzhunter
01-17-2003, 12:10 PM
Thats a pretty good common sense site Bob..It still doesn't make me change my mind about extratrestrial life...(I am gonna refer to it as ETL in the future). I have a freind whom is really into the christian thing. So we studied the bible togeather and she would get so frustrated (in a fun way...remember we are freinds) because I felt that alot of what has been described sounds to me like "sightings" rather than visions of God. Any who...while I understand the reasons of Why Not...I still think we will someday. Ok I am gonna stick my neck out here try not to chop it off...
What if what we were seeded to this planet? They have found hyroglifs in caves dating back to cavemen that show men in space suits similar to the ones we use today...I will take some time and see if I can find the pics on the web and post the link. I find those more interesting than say the Myan glifs...because they are so primitive...thier lives revolved around hunting gathering and just staying alive they didn't have a really structured socitey that would vastly influance thier drawings like later glifs. I find it hard to believe that we would be the only itellagance in all of the Universe...thats just not possible in my mind...Q
Q ...I am so surprized at your "narrow thinking" on this subject...normally you are so open minded about things.
:D :D :D
jessho
01-17-2003, 03:03 PM
Here (http://homepage.sunrise.ch/homepage/schatzer/space-time.html) you go Sauron. Read this carefully. There will be a pop quiz at 4:00 p.m.
Why are you giving him so much time to understand such obvious common sense?
Originally posted by jessho
Here (http://homepage.sunrise.ch/homepage/schatzer/space-time.html) you go Sauron. Read this carefully. There will be a pop quiz at 4:00 p.m.
Galilean Space-Time and quantum ether – LOL
The guy is not in the mainstream for sure. That is based on theories prior to Einstein.
What a want-a-be.
Quartzhunter
01-18-2003, 10:54 AM
well I guess thats better than a beheading....LOL
Q
Quartzhunter
01-19-2003, 01:07 PM
This place is dusty too...sweep sweep...
I thought you only picked up a broom when you were going somewhere Q ? http://fool.exler.ru/sm/alc.gif
Quartzhunter
02-10-2003, 01:45 PM
I don't drive a "broom" tis the EBAB to you ....
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